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no one who has learned my technique can

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do a wart

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a wart there is no effect on a wart

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i've treated a wart toll i can't stand

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it anymore and it

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laughs at me it mocks me openly

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it doesn't have an effect on a wart so i

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think we make a mistake we go

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healing no healing as if all healings

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alike

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so there may be something i don't know

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why my thing works on cancer it doesn't

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work on warts i don't know

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the reverse may be true on on other

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stuff

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uh maybe other people can do warts in

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fact other people who are healers so

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when i say that they laugh at me go any

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putts can do a wart

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i said this putts can't and i'm

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constrained by the data i can't do it

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cancer it's only cancer

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so the different healing techniques

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let me go to the fourth first and then

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come back to the third

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are placebo effects an instance of

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maybe it's not all suggestion i get

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placebo effects in mice

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and i don't think they're all that

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suggestible if they are they're hiding

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they don't know they shouldn't but but

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placebo effects happen

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in animals and i think it's through this

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resonant bonding through this

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entanglement

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and the third one down can healing be

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this goes in really to the conference

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theme

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pragmatics of anomalies

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if you're going to make healing

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pragmatic

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you have to be able to take the healer

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out of it out of the equation

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because it can't be something that

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master so and so can do and only master

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so and so can do

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nobody else can we can get the uh factor

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and people go ooh ah isn't that amazing

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and we go and we flop on the floor and

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we're amazed and all that kind of stuff

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but if it's only master so-and-so which

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is an odd name but if it's only master

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it's interesting it shows what may be

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possible

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but it's certainly not pragmatic because

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sooner or later master so-and-so is

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going to get hit by a bus

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and you got to pass the bus factor what

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happens if master so-and-so is taken out

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if only certain people can do certain

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things in healing it's not

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i mean it's interesting but it's not

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pragmatic

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so a couple things have to happen in

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you got to be able to store it play it

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back

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reproduce it after the person is hit by

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or you have to be able to teach it and

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so my seventh proposition

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has to work so let's say for whatever

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reason i've stumbled upon something that

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will produce

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good effects with cancer and i get hit

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by a bus it shouldn't go away

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if it goes away i'm just a new ah

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and that's interesting but only as a

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passing thought

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who cares but if you can store it

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and play it back if you can store it

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and somehow transmit it if you can teach

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other people

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to do it we've got something pragmatic

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if we don't we don't have much going i

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mean we have the

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but we don't have a reliable phenomenon

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and obviously then it would be more

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difficult to transition to any type of

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this is my favorite cartoon

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i'll leave it with that and i'll take

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peter you run the questions

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so we get baseline of consistent and

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this is not my area of expertise so we

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get baseline we're consistent everything

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is calibrated

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it's running and then we do the session

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and then this this anomalous wave occurs

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now the anomalous wave occurs it's it's

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this is another

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interesting part and this also is the

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case with the regs

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if i do the technique and so ins you saw

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me

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imagine i'm treating

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an reg nothing happens at all but if a

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mouse is sick and you're running the reg

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the reg goes nutty if you treat the

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magnetic

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probe directly as if it's a cage nothing

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but if you have a sick mouse this is

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when this occurs

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so there's no deliberate attempt to

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bring about this

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anomalous wave i still don't even know

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what it is uh it simply occurs

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well you're focusing on something i

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don't know that needs healing

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but it's not a pk effect certainly i

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can't sit there and

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make an reg go that way or that way but

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you put your hands on a mouse or a

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person the reg will be affected

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if you if you treat the geomagnetic

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probe directly nothing will happen at

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least in my case

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uh if if there is a need present and

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some and again that's why i say

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perhaps it's related to healing but this

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is really speculative because i don't

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know when healing actually

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occurs i need uh i need the folks here

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who knows how to to do that stuff

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to let me know when it occurs because

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bill this is really something greeting

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this is really something for two

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major anomalistic disciplines

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burst feeling sounds a lot like

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it sounds very much like the the bonding

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effect that

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did you speak about very important

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phenomena and

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uh if it can be used uh to

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induce healing you know amongst a group

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of we'll say mice or humans or other

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could not also cancer itself also

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through a whatever phenomena it is

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induce cancer in other animals as well

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and that's the first part of the

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are you familiar with the research that

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this russian

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scientist back in the 80s did his name

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kaznachayev and he did research on the

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transmissibility

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of disease through a similar bonding

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type of

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uh phenomena that you're talking about

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but he couldn't explain exactly what it

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was either i i

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i'm not familiar with it yeah i don't i

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don't know i don't know

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i mean i'm going to sit here and when i

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said these are things i'm reasonably

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certain of

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and and going down and and my biggest

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categories at the bottom i

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you know there's a lot of work here for

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a lot of people who want to get involved

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in research in this stuff

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because i got hundreds of questions i

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could i could lay out

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and we can all have careers for next

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hundred years so i'm not trying to hold

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this tight to the vest

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in particular if anybody there who is

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immunologically oriented wants to make a

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cancer vaccine

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control pragmatic sounds fascinating and

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the control group's always been

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designated in the beginning of control

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after the experiment has occurred uh

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it's always in the beginning of the

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uh now it's a little more complicated

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than i got across here

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um the control group if in a separate

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building i know this sounds nutty i'm

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just i'm reporting

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if in the control group if it's in a

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separate building

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and no one who knows the technique has

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seen them they will die

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and i don't know why a building matters

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i mean i don't even know how to take the

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first step on that one

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if it's in the same building it has a

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it's an interesting experiment there's a

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similar ideas people present research

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results

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starting with this feeling that maybe

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the nature is not just like these

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waves or infrasound or this about the

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other thing

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um so that there's some kind of

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intelligence i mean in some way by what

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you're doing you're invoking this

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intelligence or you're somehow

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provoking an intelligence that then